Comments on: Facebook Terms of Service Change: Content is now Licensed Forever http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/ Random rants and wandering words Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:21:32 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Dawood Mamedoff http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-467565 Dawood Mamedoff Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:12:32 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-467565 I think the main danger was included in the very initial version of Terms of Use. It was about the right to modify Terms of Use without any notice to users. Here are main dangers of Facebook's Terms of Use summarized: http://www.myhowtoos.com/en/red-hot/73-what-are-the-dangers-of-facebooks-terms-of-use I think the main danger was included in the very initial version of Terms of Use. It was about the right to modify Terms of Use without any notice to users.
Here are main dangers of Facebook’s Terms of Use summarized:

http://www.myhowtoos.com/en/red-hot/73-what-are-the-dangers-of-facebooks-terms-of-use

]]> By: Creative Commons means Business: CC and $$ http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-450652 Creative Commons means Business: CC and $$ Tue, 24 Mar 2009 09:46:06 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-450652 [...] (even though those are coded on ice). When users post content to Facebook, they grant Facebook a perpetual, non-revocable, galaxy-wide, license [and the problems with that] to do whatever Facebook deems [...] [...] (even though those are coded on ice). When users post content to Facebook, they grant Facebook a perpetual, non-revocable, galaxy-wide, license [and the problems with that] to do whatever Facebook deems [...]

]]> By: coffee http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-442485 coffee Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:14:13 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-442485 It makes no sense that Facebook would risk messing up a good thing by edging in on people's intellectual property. They had people's trust and then they go and risk losing it; not smart. It makes no sense that Facebook would risk messing up a good thing by edging in on people’s intellectual property. They had people’s trust and then they go and risk losing it; not smart.

]]> By: tin foil hat http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-440179 tin foil hat Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:06:59 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-440179 Could this mean that eventually someone could buy access to your private pictures or profile? If you don't own an exclusive license to your posted stuff how could you really keep the work from viewing it. I imagine that they may be setting up a great market for cyberstalkers Could this mean that eventually someone could buy access to your private pictures or profile? If you don’t own an exclusive license to your posted stuff how could you really keep the work from viewing it. I imagine that they may be setting up a great market for cyberstalkers

]]> By: Brendan O'Connell http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-439890 Brendan O'Connell Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:27:55 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-439890 @Gary why would you have to delete your flickr and blog feed. They were never directly uploaded to facebook servers and are just hyperlinks, they can't claim to be able to license that, can they? @Gary why would you have to delete your flickr and blog feed. They were never directly uploaded to facebook servers and are just hyperlinks, they can’t claim to be able to license that, can they?

]]> By: Gary Walter http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-439870 Gary Walter Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:43:54 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-439870 I appreciate you raising the issue Aaron. I've removed my Flickr and Blog feeds from Facebook. Technically, it is too late for those that were posted, and in reality, I doubt they would do anything stupid with my stuff. However, as a matter of principle, I've removed the stuff and the feeds. I've found Facebook to be somewhat useful for connecting with my non-Twitterati friends, from past and afar, and will probably keep using the service, but I know there is a potential price to pay with those mobile uploaded photos from Ping.fm. Thanks for helping me understand the CCL too! I'm not a detail person. ;) I appreciate you raising the issue Aaron. I’ve removed my Flickr and Blog feeds from Facebook. Technically, it is too late for those that were posted, and in reality, I doubt they would do anything stupid with my stuff. However, as a matter of principle, I’ve removed the stuff and the feeds.

I’ve found Facebook to be somewhat useful for connecting with my non-Twitterati friends, from past and afar, and will probably keep using the service, but I know there is a potential price to pay with those mobile uploaded photos from Ping.fm.

Thanks for helping me understand the CCL too! I’m not a detail person. ;)

]]> By: Aaron B. Hockley http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-439868 Aaron B. Hockley Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:33:50 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-439868 Gary: with the CC license, you're choosing how folks can use your photos (with/without attribution, commercial/noncommercial, whether or not they can create derivative works, etc). With Facebook, everyone (according to the terms of service) gives Facebook a perpetual, worldwide, sub-licenseable right to do anything with your content (including commercial use). There is no choice involved. There is no option to use Facebook without granting that license. If folks are comfortable with that, that's cool. My concern is that folks are agreeing to the terms without understanding the implications, and that if they did, many folks (myself included) would opt-out. Gary: with the CC license, you’re choosing how folks can use your photos (with/without attribution, commercial/noncommercial, whether or not they can create derivative works, etc). With Facebook, everyone (according to the terms of service) gives Facebook a perpetual, worldwide, sub-licenseable right to do anything with your content (including commercial use). There is no choice involved. There is no option to use Facebook without granting that license.

If folks are comfortable with that, that’s cool. My concern is that folks are agreeing to the terms without understanding the implications, and that if they did, many folks (myself included) would opt-out.

]]> By: Gary Walter http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-439867 Gary Walter Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:13:47 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-439867 Here's the question I was trying to do in 140 characters though: I've granted CC license of my work on Flickr. (I've come to realize that even though I occasionally take a good photo, my dream of buying my way to happiness, and putting my kids through college, as a photographer, is just not going to happen.) However, by doing that, who knows where my photos will end up. Is this really any different than granting FBook license to my stuff? Not technically, mind you, but actually? <i>TIA!</i> Here’s the question I was trying to do in 140 characters though:

I’ve granted CC license of my work on Flickr. (I’ve come to realize that even though I occasionally take a good photo, my dream of buying my way to happiness, and putting my kids through college, as a photographer, is just not going to happen.)

However, by doing that, who knows where my photos will end up. Is this really any different than granting FBook license to my stuff? Not technically, mind you, but actually?

TIA!

]]> By: Gary Walter http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-439866 Gary Walter Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:10:01 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-439866 This is a copy of my comment to Zuckerberg's post. http://is.gd/jN1M ~~~~~~~~~~~~ I think there is a big difference between sharing my email-type words with others, and giving you full ownership of my creative works (e.g. photos, blogs, etc). It seems to me that I'm granting license to those I transmit the "stuff" to, not the medium. Facebook is the medium. What if my phone company took the same approach, or my ISP? I'm still not getting it? This is a copy of my comment to Zuckerberg’s post. http://is.gd/jN1M
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I think there is a big difference between sharing my email-type words with others, and giving you full ownership of my creative works (e.g. photos, blogs, etc).

It seems to me that I’m granting license to those I transmit the “stuff” to, not the medium. Facebook is the medium. What if my phone company took the same approach, or my ISP?

I’m still not getting it?

]]> By: Why you shouldn’t care about the Facebook TOS change. « Blog Blog http://www.anotherblogger.com/2009/02/09/facebook-terms-of-service-change-content-is-now-licensed-forever/comment-page-1/#comment-439854 Why you shouldn’t care about the Facebook TOS change. « Blog Blog Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:51:21 +0000 http://www.anotherblogger.com/?p=1198#comment-439854 [...] that mainstream media haven’t noticed it since today. Aaron Hockley blogged about this February 9th and nobody seemed to pay attention. He mustn’t have been the only people looking at it then. [...] [...] that mainstream media haven’t noticed it since today. Aaron Hockley blogged about this February 9th and nobody seemed to pay attention. He mustn’t have been the only people looking at it then. [...]

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